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>> steve hays is senior writer at the weekly standard and just filed this report. steve, so it was just chatter on the police scanner. do we now believe they really were investigating him? >> yeah. look, i think that's the big question, megyn. we should say from the outset that police scanners, particularly in a situation like an active shooter situation, can be unreliable. you shouldn't jump to conclusions based on the information based in the scanner traffic. on the other hand, you had three separate references to supposed investigation or some reporting on syed farook from a week earlier, a...

Investigations open. it's somewhat alarming that it was at the ready. yet we're being told officially so far there were no investigations. at least they say at the federal level. has there been a denial of an investigation at the state level if >> i didn't get one. the lapd said if we had this information, we couldn't share it with you, we would have shared it with san bernardino and we wouldn't talk about it. >> why couldn't they share it with us? >> you have this scanner traffic. it's undeniable. you have at least law enforcement officials who believe there had been this investigation in to ...

>> steve hays is senior writer at the weekly standard and just filed this report. steve, so it was just chatter on the police scanner. do we now believe they really were investigating him? >> yeah. look, i think that's the big question, megyn. we should say from the outset that police scanners, particularly in a situation like an active shooter situation, can be unreliable. you shouldn't jump to conclusions based on the information based in the scanner traffic. on the other hand, you had three separate references to supposed investigation or some reporting on syed farook from a week earlier, a...

Which they are at this residence now. and that is a big help for community awareness. you know, this stuff spreads rapidly. people can be aware before law enforcement reports it on television. >> i was listening to the scanner traffic from the san bernardino police department. and you heard names. but that is just scanner traffic and has not been confirmed by any law enforcement authority or agency. i want to get to jim maxwell. philadelphia retired special agent and fbi consultant. this is in your wheel house. when you look at the situation in redlands right now at this home, what took place ...

For employees that were there and bussing them out through a nearby church. >> how did you get the call about a shoot-out? >> my editor called me. i was actually on a lunch break. i cover breaking news on the mornings. my editor called me. they had a tip so i headed out there. >> what did you think it was going to be? >> we had reports of mass casualties. that's what i understood the incident to be. once i got there, i definitely understood more. >> somebody was picking up scanner traffic or something like that? >> scanner traffic and -- >> officers were hearing a lot of rounds and just report...