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Let's goet to jason carroll joining us on the phone. jason? >> yes. i'm at the area of bailey road. massive police presence here above us. there is a helicopter. i look down the streets here, numerous police officers. i spoke to two folks out here. they said they were sitting on their sofa and they thought everything was fine. then they thought what they heard was approximately 20 shots. they heard ring out. they ran outside their home, ran down the street to where we are now. they saw a number of officers running down the street. and another helicopter now passing overhead. we're sort of bein...

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Explosives and armament. again, we go back to the idea, we can't make the connection between the vehicle that i thought was the command unit is the bomb squad unit, pulling in front of me. we saw the bomb squad robot, here on the scene, further confirmation that the you have the heavy armaments, heavy explosives on the scene and the police are trying to figure out a way to deal with t. we cannot make the connection that this is somehow related to the boston marathon bombings. but everything is absolutely inconsistent -- not everything -- the heavy armament is inconsistent with something that w...

Alive. that's usually the bravado that exists at that point. sometimes they give up. and many times, they do not. >> mark, we are going to come back to you in a couple of minutes. thank you so much for speaking with us on this and for all of your insight. we'll be right back with you. we are going to go back to mike tobin now, a fox news correspondent, telling us what has been going on -- we don't have mike. mark, we are going to come back to you for a few minutes to talk more about what is going on here. if you are just joining us, there is a huge chase underway with a suspect on the run. one...

Say that they are connected at this point. >> all right. mike tobin. thank you so much for joining us. we will keep following this. i want to ask you a couple more questions. >> reporter: sure. >> you mentioned the m.i.t. shooting -- have we heard anything else about ha? that officer? what the circumstances were? what he was responding to when he was shot? >> reporter: no. we don't know what happened at that stage of the game. we do unfortunately, that officer didn't make it. we know that one of the suspects from the scene here has been transported to beth ais rail hospital. one of the individ...