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>> and let's explain -- right. people have probably scene it in the movies. that's quite accurate. the thermal imaging. and when it is cold, your body has a heat signature and the high-tech gear can place out that heat signature. they can see which is his head and where are his feet if he is laying down, where he is in the boat to get a general sense of him being there. let's say he's been fatally wounded and he is dead. there would still be that heat signature there for some time. but if he is moving around the boat, if he is say moving from one side to the other and they see that heat signat...

Detonated. so, time will tell when you do the actual investigation, but one of the scenarios may come out to by they didn't have enough firefighting equipment there enough hands on, and enough pumper tanks and enough water to adequately fight the fire. >> so if the fire caused the explosion, the questions becomes, what caused the fire? i spoke to a source at the atf on the way to the scene. he told me, bill, it is simply too early to say whether that fire was caused by a criminal act or an accident and, frankly, investigators will not be able to get on the scene itself, the actual site, senato...

The judge. >> after all the lies you have told, why should we believe you now? >> lying isn't typically something i just do. >> why should we believe you? they want a reason. how do we know you're telling the truth now? that's her problem. that's her problem. not telling the truth time after time after time the jury has scene it. they've heard it. they know that she can sit there and look one hundred percent truthful and be spewing a lie. >> one of the things is you don't lie, right? >> lying, martinez asserted, was easy for jodi. frequent. even if it flew in the face of her mormon faith. >> t...

Told, why should we believe you now? >> lying isn't typically something i just do. >> why should we believe you? they want a reason. how do we know you're telling the truth now? that's her problem. that's her problem. not telling the truth time after time after time the jury has scene it. they've heard it. they know that she can sit there and look one hundred percent truthful and be spewing a lie. >> one of the things is you don't lie, right? >> lying, martinez asserted, was easy for jodi. frequent. even if it flew in the face of her mormon faith. >> this is the faith that you tried to follow,...

>> no, that was not a goal of mine. >> reporter: the prosecutor. >> that was a lie? is that what you're saying? >> yes. >> reporter: and even those written by the jury and read by the judge. >> after all the lies you have told, why should we believe you now? >> lying isn't typically something i just do. >> why should we believe you? they want a reason. how do we know you're telling the truth now? that's her problem. that's her problem. not telling the truth time after time after time the jury has scene it. they've heard it. they know that she can sit there and look one hundred percent truthful...