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Concerns about betsy devos. they're the first republicans to cross party lines and oppose one of president trump's cabinet nominees. let's bring in nancy gooden from real clear politics. what are their reasons stated for this? >> they have two reasons, shep. at her confirmation hearing, betsy devos botched what the federal disabilities act applies to in schools. that was a big mistakes and caused concern. secondly, it's the school choice issue. senators from rural states are concerned about how school choice will affect their states and the students in their states. that's a big issue for them...

Mayor antonio villaraigosa and thank you both for being here. madam secretary, start with you and the school choice issue. you seem to be wavering on where you are in school choice. is it the answer when it comes to accountability in the local school systems or maybe are we rushing too much? >> no, i'm a big supporter of school choice so long as we have information that empowers the consumer so they can use it effectively. all of the things that go hand in hand. when parents are powered with information and the resources as governor romney said to follow with the children to schools of their c...

The raiders -- >> dana: that is thin gruel. >> juan: i don't think so. >> dana: we'll talk about that in another block. >> juan: one thing i admire, he won big-time yesterday. hats off to mitt romney. he is the nominee. that is the big news. the second thing to say on the school choice issue, couldn't touch my heart more than he cares. minority kids, the urban kids. there are white kids throughout use better schools -- >> dana: he said urban children denied access to good schools of their choice. let's listen to our own brit hume. i want kimberly's reaction after that. >> this election is more...