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The vaccine for the 12 to 15 year olds, only 16 and up. we lost opportunity around school mandates, which would have really helped a lot, especially in the south where things are really revving up. no question it is good news, no question it is a validation of the hard work of the fda, no question it will help with mandates. but in terms of people digging their heels in due to ideology or political allegiance, i think the impact will be modest. >> i'm curious to hear what you have to say charlie because 31% said if the fda approved they could change their mind. but then you have former preside...

Approval will certainly convince some. but it's just one of a dozen fake talking points put out there by the disinformation campaign. and i think a number of people are just going to revert to one of the other ones. i think the bigger impact as was mentioned is going to be around mandates, employer mandates, federal mandates from the military. i think the one thing that didn't happen today that i would have liked to have seen is they did this approval for 16 and up. if they had gone to 12 and up, i think that would have been very powerful because one of the worst performing groups in terms of ...

There's a little confusion among us whether this will be 16 and up and 12 and up and hopefully we'll get clarification on that very soon. >> we could get those mianswers within minutes or hours. i think this is a big deal in the sense that this is full fda approval and will at least check off a talking point that has been ridiculous among some anti-vaxxers. >> yeah. >> that will just go away. we'll have full fda approval and they won't be able to say that and a few people will say, okay, now i should go. but the idea that more entities will then issue some requirements for the vaccine, it coul...

Booster. anyone with a moderna or pfizer vaccine can get a third one eight months later. three studies showing decline in our immunity rates against the virus persuaded them to make this move toward boosters, although fda has yet to sign off on it. meanwhile, an israeli study shows pfizer's booster can improve immune ages 60 and older. they're also reviewing date on people who received the one and done johnson & johnson vaccine. >> right now, the fda is now looking at the j&j, the approval, the eua, and how that would fit in. we're not forgetting at all about the people with j&j. >> president ...

That the vaccines are safe and effective, then there is another reason to give those children vaccines. in terms of not wanting mandates, we've had school mandates for vaccines since the 1970s. all 50 states in this country have school vaccine mandates. many states have pop-offs, meaning philosophical exemptions or religious exemptions. but all states have vaccine mandates. this isn't a new phenomenon. and certainly if you're going to have a mandate for a vaccine, this would be one, given how devastating this virus has been and how devastating it is right now for children. >> right. and of cou...