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I believe his name is schroeder, judge schroeder, he's come under fire for several other controversial rulings during his career, including requiring sex workers to get tested for aids and a high-profile murder conviction that was later overturned on appeal due to an evidentiary mistake on the judge's part. you said the judge's bias in this case has been evident in his pro-rittenhouse rulings in the past year. talk to me more about this. how much power a judge holds in that case like this. >> we're still -- remember, all this will is happening in the pretrial stage. we're not to the point of s...

Thinks like the judge does. >> let's talk about that judge real quick. judge i believe his name is schroeder, judge schroeder, exactly, he's come under fire for several other controversial rulings during his career, including requiring sex workers to get tested for aids and a high-profile murder conviction that was later overturned on aappeal due to a mistake on the judge's part. talk to me a little bit more about this, how much power a judge holds in a case like this. >> we're still -- remember, all this will is happening in the pretrial stage. we're not to the point of selecting a jury where...

Overwhelming sort of weakening of public education. >> so, this has been developing over periods of time. they have just found a way to kind of stoke the fire. but before i let you go, i wanted to ask your thoughts briefly on something that really got my attention this week. the judge in the kyle rittenhouse trial has ruled that the people shot and killed by rittenhouse at a black lives matter march last year cannot be called victims, but can be referred to as rioters or looters even though they were not rioting or looting. how far do you think these kind of alt-right dog whistles have permeat...

Extraordinarily horrendous rulings. i mean, in particular, he -- he mandated the public shaming of one woman who had shoplifted by judicially ordering her to announce that she was a criminal every time she entered any store. >> wow. >> so, that's the judge here who has a long and -- and checkered past. even, you know, among his peers, considered to be an outlier. >> i guess we shouldn't be surprised with that kind of background. i am going to have to leave it there. we are out of time. talia, thank you very much for being on tonight. coming up. 50 years ago, more than 1,200 inmates at the at...

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