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Manner because there wasn't legal conditions for the arrest and then there is what she is calling violence perpetuated on him through the car, through what she called multiple violations of policy that we've been learning about and reporting on that he should be seat belted in he should not be thrown around in the car and such and the extra stops. >> this also speaks to what we also know has been happening within the baltimore police department, which is a number of cases settled with that police department with similar allegations if these play out to be convictions and any of these officers ...

Information but it's a terrible way in order to get to the truth of the matter by cross-examining people, by pressing people, by determining exactly what happened and that's what's missing here but you better believe in the civil case a lot of that info will come out. >> mel, i'll ask you the toughest question. when all is said and done, will anything change? will the brown win their civil suit? will the federal investigation uncover civil rights violations? >> well, this is my prediction having read everything that's come out and number one i don't think that there will be a federal suit brou...

Voters, in addition to latinos and gays and lesbians. but the moment they said they should do those things, it did everything to turn their backs in those communities. >> david, for democrats watching this in mississippi, hoping for a restoration of the democratic control of the senate seats there, what would the strategic may be today? >> well, you know, you can game this out two different ways. it's better for the democrats to go up against an extremist like chris mcdaniel who comes from the world of right wing radio and has said things that are either silly, stupid, or just excessive. he's ...

Did they do everything reasonable? clearly not in this case. >> i want to bring in arthur rosenberg. how important is it for families to stick together in this situation? >> yeah, what usually happens in these disaster cases is that a family group is formed and coordinated by the families of the victims. it's typical, it happened in lockerbie. there was a very effective group that coordinated, they made some changes and helped towards the family assistance act. i want to move forward a little bit. part of the problem that these families are having is that there is not one sovereign that has be...

Really hard to believe. bill: jay, i think you argued these numbers before, correct me if i'm wrong, was it 292-8, conservative groups targeted versus liberal groups? was that the number. >> well i don't even -- i still can't find eight liberal groups, bill. we're representing 42. there were hundreds. i think the number was 200 -- bill: you say 292-0? >> i think that's right. i have not found a liberal group that went through the same targeting process these conservative groups gone to. there was one liberal group denied bad tax-exempt status because of bad lawyering or bad accountants because...