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Message across to their core conservative, fiscally conservative base for 2018. >> but they lost. the deficit hawks lost. the so-called trigger provision, no, it's not going to work. i think what's interesting here is that folks who have been concerned about the deficit for a long time, people like senator ted cruz, people like in the house of representatives are saying, wait a minute, that trigger provision is just another tax. so you have this situation where republicans right now from president trump down to house members are banking on economic growth, 3% gdp economic growth as paying for ...

Initial visit to south carolina. he says he's going to run as a core conservative jackie and try to pull voters along with him. how unusual is that approach? >> it's a very strong message when you are talking to the republican base but it remains to be seen if this is something that can work in a general election. saying you are going to win victory without compromise that's fine for wisconsin. but the broader electorate is more diverse than that. he's going to have to broaden out at some point if he wants to attract more people. jon: he's not the flashiest candidate on the republican side. he...

You choose? majorities of new jerseyens chose hillary clinton for president, as opposed to chris christie. >> see, i disagree with the primary, him not being able to get out of it and here's why. if you do have ted cruz and you have a mike huckabee and rick santorum. other hard conservatives like that running in the primary. they're going to be sharing a lot of people's votes we saw it last time in the primaries that we had with the republicans and so a guy that was not a hard conservative, mitt romney, came out as a victory because there were so many people fighting for that core conservative...

Ingraham whether this means the republican party needs to revamp'. some are saying you need to go north middle. she does not agree with that. she thinks you have to find a full able bodied conservative who can aspouse the conservative principles in a way we didn't hear from mitt romney. >> i agree with that. part of the problem with mitt romney. he's a classy guy. he's a genuinely good person and there are too few of those in american politics. but mitt romney was trying to sell something that fundamentally doesn't come within him. he's not a visceral core conservative. he was adopting the lan...

Let's listen to what she sad to say. >> they want to know what's the truth. they're interested in who is the consistent core conservative. >> he is the only governor to put into place socialized medicine. >> can he beat obama. he had the blueprint for obama care. it's too identical. it won't happen. >> sorry, we cued the wrong tape, this is what i meant to play. >> i am honored to be able to be here to lend my voice and my endorsement to mitt romney has our president, to take the country back. that something to get excited about, it's why we must elect mitt romney has the next president of the...