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You are the guy executing p it you're going to feel a tremendous amount of pressure for doing something like this. there's always a lot of pushing and shoving going on, everybody wants to do the best job. the president has to sort that out, when you come out of that pressure cooker, and it's all -- you have a lot of thoughts going through your head, when i found out, it took me a long time to unwind, i wrote a book, but -- did was therapeutic, but it was years after that, before i could express it in a few words what i had gone through. it takes a long time to die disgust something like this. ...

You are the guy executing it, you're going to feel a tremendous amount of pressure for doing something like this. there's always a lot of pushing and shoving going on, everybody wants to do the best job. the president has to sort that out, when you come out of that pressure cooker, and it's all -- you have a lot of thoughts going through your head, when i found out, it took me a long time to unwind, i wrote a book, but -- did was therapeutic, but it was years after that, before i could express it in a few words what i had gone through. it takes a long time to die disgust something like this. >...

Of defense. you're in the chain of command. i brought you this decision, but you are the guy executing it, you're going to feel a tremendous amount of pressure for doing something like this. there's always a lot of pushing and shoving going on, everybody wants to do the best job. the president has to sort that out, when you come out of that pressure cooker, and it's all -- you have a lot of thoughts going through your head, when i found out, it took me a long time to unwind, i wrote a book, but -- did was therapeutic, but it was years after that, before i could express it in a few words what i...

Says he detested his job as the secretary of defense. some score settling in here. there are dangerous for gates in here as well because he has the reputation of serving both sides. i have no problem with bob gates writing a book. but the inclusion of these private conversations that the president, hillary clinton, joe biden thought were conducted in confidence, that is kind of a betrayal. gates is not the first one to turn on and administration and do that coming up with a bestseller, but it raises some questions about motivations as well reedi. jon: future presidents will have to worry if th...

By that i mean, you know, maybe he makes another run. >> really? >> well, this is just me. [ laughter ] >> but i think he has got the credentials. he has run before. he has been a superb secretary of state. >> with me now to react is fox news contributor mary katharine ham. stop laughing mary katherine and democratic strategist who advised hillary clinton's 2008 campaign. we are going to it announce now already going to be her chief of staff. sorry. i didn't mean to spill the beans. i have got to start with you richard on this comment from richardson. that kind of surprised me. i didn't see th...