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You've got people screaming in the airplane at that point. that's how dramatic it is. >> from your experience, does this suggest -- we don't know the why. but does this suggest what investigators have said all along a lot of this came because of deliberate action in the cockpit? does this need to be deliberate? >> to me it does more than suggest it because to program something like that it would go down to 5,000 feet and back up again would take some planning, it would take the ability to preprogram those movements and all that change. it's not something that would be in a scratch pad where yo...

Plan. >> so you'd have to say i'm going to drop to 5,000 feet, then go back up to 35,000 feet, and you would have had to have done that at the beginning. >> at the beginning or you could have done it after you made that turn. you have a little time there, you could have programmed that in or put it into what we call the scratch pad. you transfer that information in. that's only going to have one-way point or very little information on a scratch pad. it's not something you could put a whole flight plan in. >> we have a viewer question. people sending us a lot of questions on twitter and faceboo...

Scratch pad? >> the scratch pad son lie enough to put in maybe your first and last name. 18 way points wouldn't fit in the scratch pad. >> reporter: the other thing i'll point out it's a long way this plane deviated. it to be with equivalent of going from new york to chicago. almost 800 miles out of the way by this course. >> and, miles, if it did, in fact, skirt indonesian airspace the whole idea it was trying find some place to land or it would nullify that whole concept. >> yes. that concept goes out the window. if you're in an emergency situation and not doing this, this is a deliberate ac...

Marty, i got a quick question for you. for you and mitch. how long did it take you, mitch, to put in those way points, and is it possible you could have when programming before the flight you could have put it on the scratch pad but only executed once you were in the air? >> it took me a minute-and-a-half, richard, to put in those way points. >> reporter: a list of them. >> it's quite a long time. could it have been done beforehand? it could have in theory. the other pilot would have noticed it on the screen. it would have come up on the navigation -- >> reporter: what about on the scratch pad...

Airport. as soon as we get to a point of no return, i'm gonna put in the scratch pad of this device, they have the ability to have kind of, you know, rough notes, with these waypoints to get me to that airport and i wouldn't have to think much about it if i had an emergency. pilot does this all the time, they are constantly thinking about these things. it's possible that those were put in and ended up flying that route and could be a pilot who made a terrible mistake, too. >> and miles, i want to just turn to something, you know, when people are looking at you there, they probably aren't notic...