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President was so profuse in his criticism for hillary clinton over her e-mail. why would jared kushner and ivanka trump make the same mistake? >> their lawyer has said they take screen shots of these things and send them to their e-mail to keep a record of them which is vastly different from creating a server and putting it in your house to never have it come through the government. so i think the lawyer for the kushners said they were complying with the law on this. >> hillary clinton sent her e-mail communications that were pertinent into the system and, therefore, was in compliance the same...

Have questionable motivations. and this story, this letter from cummings today, he said jared kushner's lawyer abbe lowell told him kushner takes screen shots of conversations and sends them to e-mails to preserve them. why is jared kushner's personal defense attorney saying that? this should be the white house counsel's office. >> that's a great, great point. >> especially a couple of weeks after kushner's attorney was out saying that jared's security clearance had gone through regular channels when that wasn't the case. it seemed like he said that because jared lied to him. how do we know ja...

Unless they forward it to their email. when asked how kushner preserves records of his conversation, his lawyer said he takes screen shots of those communications and forwards them to his official white house email account and confirmed that kushner had communications with people outside of the united states. while cnn reported last year that he talked to the notorious saudi prince using whatsapp. when asked if he's ever used to it discuss classified information, he said that's above my pay grade. he ever said that they were with officials or foreign leaders, but with some people. they have fa...

The latest development. the broader issue is that in discussions with this chairman and previous chairs, white house lawyers acknowledged that a number of senior officials used personal e-mail accounts, potentially encrypted apps and domains to conduct official business. they have been submitting them to the proper authority. what is now a dispute about whether or not jared kushner used this application to conduct official business with foreign leaders, it gets pretty specific if you go into the letter. now the white house said that he was taking screen shots and submitting them. now the most ...

A federal judge. is he hoping a pardon? what is his play? >> i think he's hoping for donations to his legal defense fund, right? he knows by keeping up this sher raid and playing to his base he can just get more money flowing into that fund which he's been advertising non-stop on every platform that he is still allowed on, which are granted very few. but instagram is one of them. and of course that is something that really infuriated amy bertman jackson, too, was he posted a photo of her with cross-hairs, essentially saying that he was being set up and that this whole thing was just, you know ...