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>> i'm sorry, where is that? >> there was a lawyer in front of the united states supreme court trying to base his argument on what he calls the marital norm of sexual exclusivity, and sadly, newt gingrich wasn't there to cheer him on. the point was laughable, if the court had time to laugh, but they ignored that nonsense to focus on the relevant issues. joining me for an exclusive interview, two of the founders of the group backing the challenge to proposition 8, dust in lance black, the academy award winning screen writer of "milk" and chad griffin, president of the human rights campaign. als...

Member recently sat down with the screen writer and joins us now, is it going to hurt the oscar chances? >> it hurt it amid the award season. and dates back really to the christmas release and the letters from the senators, you know, it is one of the best review reviewed films and viewers are complained, but defined as the torture film and hijacked by the politics of torture, so much more so in washington than hollywood, than anywhere else. you met him for the paper and what's his argument. he thinks it's unfair, i assume. >> i think he's frustrated and impassioned and this is a film about an ...

This is -- there is -- there are controversial aspects to all these films as we just noted, but "zero dark thirty" is one of those films where there has been political intrigue, quite literally. the senate intelligence committee, including dianne feinstein, john mccain, and carl levin wrote letters protesting the use of torture or the depiction of torture in the film. naomi wolf called the preliminarymakers apologists for evil, and screen writer said the film was hijacked for political purposes. what did you make of the film in terms of touching on a very incendiary topic? >> it's a very, very...

There he is. he's 16 years. i do question child labor laws, that's a little young. not a full adult just yet. but anyway, all this week, they announced on monday it's made prince an on-air correspondent. he's the eldest child of course of michael jackson. he says "i'm looking forward -- i'm looking to become well ro d rounded as a producer, director, screen writer and actor." i guess this is his break into the business. you can see the family resemblance of michael, can't you? apparently this is his new gig, he's going to be there at least for the week. i wonder if it's a real career start or ...

But the pin heads in the academy. you have to understand who votes for the oscar people. these are people some of the fringe players in the hollywood business some working actively but overwhelmingly to the left, correct? >> in other words, they didn't feel like they should get zero dark 30 but they wanted to punish somebody involved. they nominated the screen writer but not the director. >> do you think there is a reverse black list. some are giwere given a hard ti. sean penn's father one of them. now i am hearing from actors and other people if you show any sympathy to the right if you say g...