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"something funny happened on my way to a transportation meeting at northgate. as i got off the bus at 3rd and pine, i heard helicopters above. knowing that the problems of new york would precipitate action by occupy seattle, i thought i better check it out. the police shoved their bicycles into the crowd and pepper sprayed the so captured protesters. if it had not been for my hero iraq vet caleb, i would have been down on the ground and trampled. this is what democracy looks like." she said, it certainly left an impression on the people who rode the number one bus home with me. in the women's ...

Knowing that the problems of new york would precipitate action by occupy seattle, i thought i would find it out. the police shoved their bicycles into the crowd and pepper sprayed the so captured protesters.ç if it had not been for my hero iraq vet caleb, i would have been down on the ground and trampled. this is what democracy looks like." in the women's movement, there were signs which said, screw us and we'll multiply. screw us and we'll multiply. she's 84. joining us now for the interview is my friend john hodgman author of the new book "that is all" and a rachel maddow show first, he's ...