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A mile which might help you interdicting drug trafficking, but all those migrants, honduras, el salvador, nicaragua, the northern triangle countries, they can still even with a border barrier get feet on u.s. soil, and their goal is to be apprehended by the border patrol. so how would building a barrier in texas affect this problem of illegal immigration that the president talks about each and every day? >> that goes back to the larger discussion about border security. yes, there are a barrier -- there's a barrier, and the part that sometimes gets forgotten about is something the president's t...

One source went so far as to say this particular week the u.s. federal government before the shutdown ended was more vulnerable to cyber attacks, phishing, spearing attacks and terrorism online than at any point in history, and it's going to take months to retube the losses to get -- recoup the losses. john: i think a mutual friend of ours was saying if you were going to attack the united states if you were a terrorist -- >> now's a great time. john: so chuck schumer goes into the negotiations really kind of saying, i told you so, juan. let's listen to what he said then get your reaction. >> n...

Democrats to crack at all on funding for a border barrier? >> i don't see it right now, john. i mean, what we know from the polling, and we've had some recent polls indicating very clearly now, i think it's 54% of the american people don't favor the wall. so that the wall itself, which is a huge political symbol for this president, does not seem to have the political power that he thought. we have seen his numbers drop. the ap poll, julie is here, now has him at 34% approval. that's a drop for him. i'm particularly in touch with the idea that independents who i think are key as we look towards...

Shining seawall, it's not a giant 30-foot concrete barrier that so many democrats seem to have any difficulty with. he even put daca and tps on the table at some point during this process, and they refused to even engage. so i think the better question is what are the democrats willing to do. the president from the very beginning here actually has been the one willing to negotiate. he was the one staying in washington, d.c. when nancy went to hawaii. he's the one who stayed in d.c. when democrats all went down to puerto rico. he was in d.c. when she tried to go to europe and the middle east la...

He's listened to cbp and i.c.e. we have identified the top 17 highest priorities in terms of where we can put a barrier to discourage people from crossing the border illegally. it's about 243 miles. that's what's driving this discussion. it's not a made-up, magical number. it's the wall where we need it the most and where we need it the quickest. that's what's driving this. this is not something where the president's married to a number, he's married to border security which is the right thing for the president of the united states to do. john: it's not lost on me that you shrewdly ducked my q...