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Issues. but as a journalist, there is sort of an industrywide recognition that a lot of these issues don't necessarily get the time they deserve because there's just such a cascade and firehose of news in terms of what you were saying, the headlines we're writing, the leads we're writing and even the time we can devote to some of this coverage. >> i appreciate we all kind of hit pause here and let this sink in. i want to let this sink in for you and for joyce. this is kamala harris on -- alex acosta's defense of the agreement. that's not normal either. let's listen. >> any prosecutor worth the...

Leaving without any conversation about the victims and about what this means for women in the era of me too is i just think tonedeton tonedeaf completely. >> and for acosta to walk out the door without cleaning up any of the damage of his own reputation, frank, is stunning to me as a person who handled former communications for high government-level officials to not stand there and say, i did my best but i'm sorry i provided over a system that failed these young victims. these weren't women. these were girls. these were children. some of their lives were ruined. some of them are dead. i mean, ...

Fantastic secretary of labor. >> trump, known to be consumed by media coverage of his administration, was clearly not distraught about the deal that acosta negotiated for epstein, but concerned about the bad press acosta was getting. from "the washington post," quote, trump did not originally want to be seen as cutting ties with him over a decade-old episode, even if some of his longest advisers believed the departure was inevitable. even with the news coverage and facts of the case. with acosta out of the picture, trump is trying to put distance between himself and epstein. >> i was not a fan...

Expectation that acosta may not make it through the week. we will see, however. you made a key point here, both republicans and democrats will all be watching at 2:30 today when he speaks to figure out if there are next steps, and what those next steps might be, kate. >> absolutely. and all the while we have this sdny case now against jeffrey epstein and dozens of underage victims, that they are still asking for more victims to come forward if they can. amidst all of this, there is that. phil, thank you so much, i really appreciate it. we're going to keep our eye on washington and capitol hi...

District prosecutors. i tend to think that the pardon theory gives michael cohen a little bit too much credit. i don't think he's overthinking this. the distinction between the courtroom and the media has been blurred from day one in this case. i don't think michael cohen knows where the distinction is at this point. look, this is a 180. as you said, he said he was willing to take a bullet for president trump. but it's one thing to say you'll take a bullet. it's another thing when the gun is locked and loaded. and here the ammunition is clearly the threat of a criminal indictment from the sout...