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Maryland, which they thought he would voluntarily give his dna to prove he had not been involved in the fight. >> and we were not leaving easton, maryland, until we got his dna. >> this proved to be harder than investigators anticipated. denny smoked during his interrogation but always made sure to keep the cigarette butts. detectives offered him a bottle of water, but he wouldn't touch it. finally, they asked him to sign a document saying he refused to provide his dna. >> we asked him to put the letter into envelope and seal the envelopes. he refused to seal the envelopes and basically told u...

Easton, maryland, until we got his dna. >> this proved to be harder than investigators anticipated. denny smoked during his interrogation but always made sure to keep the cigarette butts. detectives offered him a bottle of water, but he wouldn't touch it. finally, they asked him to sign a document saying he refused to provide his dna. >> we asked him to put the letter into envelope and seal the envelopes. he refused to seal the envelopes and basically told us, look, you tried three timeses to get my saliva on something. first the cigarette butt, then the water bottles and now the envelopes. se...

The irs and he's appointed by president obama is involved. i don't know that it lead directly to the president, i'm not going make that assertion. gregg: when you got an inquiry letter from lois lerner, did that seal it for you? you knew she wasn't telling the truth when she set it was a couple rogue employees. you got an inquiry letter from her directly. >> i knew last year when she blamed it on low-level agents in cincinnati that could not be true. and from the emails we have seen she is at the epicenter of all of this. gregg: what would you like to ask her, what questions would you like her...

His dna. >> this proved to be harder than investigators anticipated. denny smoked during his interrogation but always made sure to keep the cigarette butts. detectives offered him a bottle of water, but he wouldn't touch it. finally, they asked him to sign a document saying he refused to provide his dna. >> we asked him to put the letter into envelope and seal the envelopes. he refused to seal the envelopes and basically told us, look, you tried three timeses to get my saliva on something. first the cigarette butt, then the water bottles and now the envelopes. seal it yourselves. is there anyt...

The question is this. is donald trump playing us for suckers? go to cnn.com/caffertyfile. post your comment on my blog. media is partly to blame in this. we jump at these things because it is a good story. we -- we are suckers for a good story. >> we are. he's a good salesman. will is no doubt about that. donald drum is not the only potential presidential candidate that questioned president obama's birth place. there are several others including sarah palin, michele bachma bachmann. she appears to be change her tune. the minnesota republican was shown a copy of the president's certificate of...