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Was not user friendly. >> russian metadata meaning? >> meaning traces on the actual documents. you could tell -- there was russian language on it. >> it so you could tell it was the work of russian hackers? >> correct. >> now we're going to wikileaks timed on the eve of the convention, highly searchable user-friendly search function, we could very easily cull the wheat from the chaff in terms of the e-mails and reporters were able to very quickly search for the bernie e-mails or the dws e-mails. that got metastasized very quickly. >> you said in the earlier leak you talked to somebody who was ...

>> the first we saw was the dump of information was by guccifer 2, a name people don't know on an obscure web site called d.c. leaks that people didn't know. it was a massive dump of information and it was not user friendly. even we had trouble. >> but it was from the democratic party? >> it was the first dnc dump of the hacked information. the secondone was wikileaks, a very well-known outlet with a highly-searchable search function where you could easily get to the good information and on the eve of the democratic convention, so it was the first shift in -- where guccifer didn't get a lot of...

>> what do you mean? >> the first we saw was the dump of information was by guccifer 2, a name people don't know on an obscure web site called d.c. leaks that people didn't know. it was a massive dump of information and it was not user friendly. even we had trouble. >> but it was from the democratic party? >> it was the first dnc dump of the hacked information. the secondone was wikileaks, a very well-known outlet with a highly-searchable search function where you could easily get to the good information and on the eve of the democratic convention, so it was the first shift in -- where guccife...

Information and it was not user friendly. even we had trouble. >> but it was from the democratic party? >> it was the first dnc dump of the hacked information. the secondone was wikileaks, a very well-known outlet with a highly-searchable search function where you could easily get to the good information and on the eve of the democratic convention, so it was the first shift in -- where guccifer didn't get a lot of attention with the original dump of information, the second one gotten a enormous amount of attention by going to a more well-known web site that was very user-friendly. >> and at th...

Live from london. jeff, is there something else in the works here? >> oh, absolutely, shiba. the problem is that you rightly heard there from marissa mayer, yahoo! is worth $33 billion. and most of that is the allybaba stake. so what they're going to do now, break this into two businesses. one will remain yahoo! with the alibaba holding. this is the chinese e-commerce business that is valued so highly. and the other bit will be the rest of the internet operations that we used to think of yahoo! as. i.e. the website, the search function, and the apps that marissa mayer has bought, and that will...