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Change, how do you change things if you don't regulate? >> well, look, one thing keeping attention on it like they did with the hearings which in my mind is the best way forward. if there's enough pressure on them they will eventually hopefully change practices, but history shows that if they don't act on their own the american people will ask them to do it and will find themselves in a much more worse situation. david: dan, there's competition, you don't have to go to google, by the way google was a no-show at the conference. they didn't show up at all because they wanted to present a seconda...

But he says he wants things to change, how do you change things if you don't regulate? >> well, look, one thing keeping attention on it like they did with the hearings which in my mind is the best way forward. if there's enough pressure on them they will eventually hopefully change practices, but history shows that if they don't act on their own the american people will ask them to do it and will find themselves in a much more worse situation. david: dan, there's competition, you don't have to go to google, by the way google was a no-show at the conference. they didn't show up at all because t...

Man the factories and bring in these skills. it's particularly stupid -- sorry -- particularly stupid to hire people and ship them out of countries where they take american jobs away. keep people with great skills who can start people. we're not doing both of those things. >> the easiest thing for us to do right now is keep all of these high-tech people who vn been trained so they create jobs and corporations in a second. >> switching gears, i want to ask you about privacy and information. we have a phone that you're talking about. i guess it's technically always on. we have google which barnl...

Country and take american jobs away. >> you have to keep people with great skills and great educations that can start businesses here and you have to do a better job making sure you are raising people with those skills, and we are not doing both of those things. >> the easiest thing to do now is to keep the high-tech people in america so they don't create competitors in other countries and they create jobs and corporations here, and they can do that in a second and it chanjust takes a change in law. >> we have a phone that will be always on, and google, which basically maybe knows what i am go...