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Seek, as was alluded to, by the chair today, criminal contempt proceedings from a department of -- justice that will treat this as they treat any other lawful subpoena that is not honored, and of course to press the case in the courts knowing that, on the mcgahn case at least, we now have recent president that they should testify. as i said, lawrence, they have time on their. side it is important that if -- before we go into another major election, the country knows just to these people are and why we cannot trust them to govern or trust them to honor an election result. again the biden admini...

Up in court where delay is the name of the game. and that's what he did in the last congress. i was part of the house intelligence committee when we subpoenaed with deutsche bank records for donald trump in march of 2019. i don't think congress has gotten him. yet so this is his playbook and it is where he's going to. do even though it is merit-less because it appears, based on some information that the president -- press secretary jen psaki said today, it appears the biden administration is not going to assert executive privilege over dame trump's conversations with people in the white house....

It is not used to, us it is not new. but it is a pretty remarkable notion that this judge would order some third company to go seas documents, to not pursue to a search warrant, because they are refusing to comply. in court there are instances where someone takes the fifth amendment or doesn't produce information that they should have produced. you can take an adverse against them where that information or the testimony or the documents would be harmful. we are at the point, unfortunately, where we are so used to donald trump using these bad faith, disingenuous, delay tactics that don't seem t...

Donald trump in this whole big lie. early in the investigation you would start lower and work your way up so that you have more information, you try to get documents, you would have information to confront with -- what this is about. but i think they recognize that this is going to go to litigation. and if they wait, like bob mueller did with subpoenaing donald trump until the end of the investigation, they won't have time to let it go through the courts. so they went straight for the key witnesses, expecting there to be litigation, and now they will do the rest of the investigation with peopl...