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Innovative. and i think a lot of what goes out on the media is not actually accurate. we have some increases in, you know, certain types of crimes. but if you look across the board, seattle is continuing to manage this, as are many other cities. we believe what i saw cedric richmond saying which is we've passed bills on gun reform, sensible gun reforms in the house. those need to be taken up in the senate so we can actually control the number of guns that are on the streets. and we believe that something like the jobs and families plan is actually what is needed to build a strong stable founda...

Everybody to come out and see our beautiful city. >> oh, please, it's my wife's favorite place that she's lived other than here. so, the love for seattle runs deep in my household, i promise you that. very quickly, i notice the phrase -- the phrase defund the police, is that a phrase you'd like to see go away? >> i just think it has created divisions that are, you know, sometimes, exploited by the other side. at the end of the day, again, we are united by the police that we need accountability for law enforcement. that is why we passed the george floyd justice and policing act. and i think it ...

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