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With a 15 round magazine. here is a 7 round magazine that would be less than would be lawful under this bill. it doesn't fit. so this gun would be banned. >> i nope that that is not loaded. >> i'm at my house, i can doo whatever i want with my guns. >> reporter: while democrats push back on the second amendment argument. >> do you know who didn't have due process? do you know who didn't have their constitutional right to life respected, the kids at parkland and sandy hook and uvalde and buffalo and the list goes on and on. so spare me the bull [ bleep ]. >> i'm stunned by some of the words tha...

Country apart. >> you know, it is believed that this was a shotgun and many would say, look, the second amendment argument here, gun legislation argument, may not have changed what this individual did. we don't know if he had the gun legally or not yet, we just don't know. i want you to respond to what the mayor of annapolis told me this morning. >> we questioning why people are so tightly wound these days, why people are so angry and how could you be angry at just a local newspaper like this. >> he's talking about the division that is pervasive in this country right now. how do we bring peopl...

Creation of isis. all right. that is not an overstatement. he can argue that hillary clinton's state department didn't diplomatically engage iraq and didn't diplomatically engage iraq to renegotiate the status of power and instead hands off let the country to politically crumble and that created more of a power vacuum for isis to take control. that is a real argument. in two debates and many times when it was brought up didn't have time to make the policy case that they really did have a role to play here. >> his sounds better. >> it sounds worse because the crowd loves it, but as an american ...

Obama. he is the founder of isis. she the founder of isis. he is the founder. he founded isis. and i would say the co-founder would be crooked hillary clinton. so now we're bombed out in mosul, the enemy is much tougher than they thought. they had a lot of time to get ready. they're using human shields all over the place. >> now, strong rhetoric impresses the crowd. here's the problem, patently false. obama, president obama did not give birth to isis. any military expert will tell you that. certainly hillary clinton wouldn't be the co-founder. mosul, you can't find a general who is currently a...

African-americans. is he missing the opportunity here to say something real? >> you know, he is missing an opportunity. there is actually one of his good surrogates rudy giuliani helped turn around new york city in the early '90 when there were 2,000 murders a year. when you had terrible inner city plight where it does affect african-american and latino communities. >> absolutely. >> a couple things he could have done. he could make a policy or argument for urban renewal and he often also doesn't make the second amendment argument here. some of the cities where the crime is worse is actually w...