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Recently. speak of is been a dispute between wayne lapierre and oliver north and it's been playing out and gone to court. frankly, the organization itself has lost a lot of credibility. the lobbying strength isn't clear but it does have 5 million members who own guns, and they are second amendment enthusiasts. >> harris: and bipartisan. >> absolutely. there are democrats and republicans and there is more than the nra. there are other gun organizations in the country, as well. this is a constituency politicians have to take care about. obviously the democrats damage themselves with his constitu...

Which is a sonogram of the heart and found out that billy was born with heart disease. no parent should ever have to decide if they can afford to save their child's life. thank you! hi, i'm jimmy, this is billy. i was out last week, because this guy had heart surgery. but lacook, he's fine, everybod. >> the jury of your peers, your community, sees this evidence and decides that even this is self-defense. that is truly depressing. because what they're basically saying is, in america, it is officially reasonable to be afraid of a person just because they are black. >> now, i don't want to belitt...

Safe their child's life. hi, i'm jimmy. this is billy. i was out last week because this guy had a heart surgery. but look, he's fine, everybody. >> the jury of your peers, your community, sees this evidence and decides that even this is self-defense. that is truly depressing. because what they are basically saying is, in america, it is officially reasonable to be afraid of a person just because they are black. >> now, i don't want to belittle the second beliefs of second amendment enthusiasts. we all know god wants us to have guns. he says it right there in the nine commandments. but thoughts ...

And i think it's sort of evidenced in the fact that sales of assault weapons were apparently off the charts in the aftermath of the shooting at sandy hook. and this has been the case almost every time that we've had an instance of mass gun violence whereby people think that the natural response is for the government to go and get guns already out there. and so a colleague and i went to a gun show, for instance, after the shooting in aurora, and we saw a similar thing where people were buying high capacity magazines because they assumed the government would crack down on it. so it doesn't surpr...

Apparently off the charts in the aftermath of the shooting at sandy hook. and this has been the case almost every time that we've had an instance of mass gun violence whereby people think that the natural response is for the government to go and get guns already out there. and so a colleague and i went to a gun show, for instance, after the shooting in aurora, and we saw a similar thing where people were buying high capacity magazines because they assumed the government would crack down on it. so it doesn't surprise me necessarily that people are doing this and turning to this. they want a sen...