Decisions collectively, around, again, principles. and what will be then the conditions and the standards of membership. and so that is the process. it doesn't happen overnight. no one country can say, i want to be, and therefore i will be. and no one country can say, you can't be. and isn't that at the heart of the very issue that we're presented with in terms of russia's aggression or stated aggression toward ukraine? >> is it surprising to you that he planted that flag so firmly on that issue, given that that's obviously putin's main demand, is that he get some sort of guarantee, swearing t...