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Out," or just, "take the whole story out." >> anthony: magazines that would come into the country would -- they cut out, literally cut out the pieces. >> u thiha: well, the people under this kind of tight censorship, people become more, i think, creative. take a look, careful reading, there may be something between the lines, messages. >> anthony: right. it was something you were accused of, uh, sending these secret messages. in the back, a cauldron of salty little fish bubble over hardwood coals. fingers work mountains of sweet bean, one of the fillings for the variety of pastries that are st...

Of course, morning in yangon has always been about tea. it's black, indian-style tea, usually with a thick dollop of sweetened condensed milk. you want it sweet, less sweet, very sweet, strong, less strong? everybody's got a preference; everybody's got a preferred tea shop where they know, presumably, how you like yours. >> u thiha: i said i'm only less sweet, and a bit strong. >> anthony: journalist and publisher u thiha saw. we meet at the tea shop. >> u thiha: anything could happen in a tea shop. this place mean, uh, a lot of things, not just a place for breakfast and snacks. >> anthony: fo...

Lot of colors, textures, and flavors in one dish -- >> ma: yes. yeah. >> anthony: or -- >> ma: different. >> anthony: different. >> ma: yeah. >> anthony: wow, i'm in love. that's good. >> ma: yes. it is. >> anthony: and of course there's the maddeningly delicious condiments and pickles with which to make each dish your own. >> ma: you make a lot of different combinations with each mouthful. >> anthony: ah. and this is something very confusing in general in this part of the world. everybody eats everything differently, to -- very much to their taste. >> ma: anything goes. >> anthony: anything g...

Cuisine. so you're very passionate about the cooking and the cuisine here, and -- >> ma: well, it's just that i like to eat and i eat like a pig. [ chuckles ] >> anthony: this is yangon's restaurant. >> ma: salads, i think, are the best of our food. i'm going to order a lot of salads that you haven't had. you know, it's going to be like a sort of a tasting thing. >> anthony: there's pic head salad with kaffir lime leaf, long bean salad with sesame and fish sauce, penny leaf salad, even this salad of india-style samosa. everything's out there at the same time. >> ma: yes. >> anthony: no first c...

For guarded and not-so-guarded discussions of the daily news, where you tried to piece together the real stories behind the ludicrously chopped and censored newspapers. carefully, of course, because informers and secret police were also heavily represented in these hotbeds of sedition and discontent. so, given your profession, how have you managed to stay out of prison all of these years? >> u thiha: no. i was there. >> anthony: oh, really? >> u thiha: two times. >> anthony: two times. >> u thiha: once special burma police called me. "hey, u thiha saw, will you please come into office? we need...