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Peer, we should say mr. durham was at one time respected and regarded and did important work following the bush years to the war on terror policies, what was it like to have your probe investigated for four years? >> we were very aware as pete strzok and others, there was going to be an investigation of us, and our view of that was fine. if you know what you're doing, done in good faith and you're our view was fine. if you want to second-guess and make sure we did something, that's fine. what's unbelievable about john durham he brought two cases he lost he seemed to say it was okay as long as ...

He continues if he wants to provide some audible response to a question, this is with a special counsel, the justice department process needs to play out. i'm, you know, confident in the outcome but that's it. it shouldn't be any more than that. his lawyers would not want him to say anything more than that. now that there is a special counsel in place which is a special designation by the attorney general. >> no regrets. even if there was no nefarious conduct classified materials ended up where they should have been. somebody was careless. >> i won't second-guess his like reason for why he'd w...

The bar is very high for special counsel, but you said different jurisdictions and that person would be a special counsel. what is it? do you think a special counsel should be or no? >> based on what i know, based upon my experience in the bush administration, yes, particularly if it appears we're talking about evidence that may be in different jurisdictions. i would appoint a special counsel that would have jurisdiction over the various u.s. attorney districts. yes, i would appoint a special counsel based on what i know. again, it's based upon public reporting. it's not my place to second gue...

So you want to just go with your absolute strongest case and just try it and keep it clean and quick and get in and get out. so that's sort of my sort of predilection and the way i think about things. it is, however, very hard to second guess that when you're not inside and being able to truly assess the strength of the case. but in general, i wouldn't be a fan of going big unless you really have the evidence and you're not creating a target for the defense. >> so barb, i want your legal analysis, as well. i also want to add another layer to this. blayne alexander made the wise point that we d...

Resolution... the position we are in, it is a result, it is up to the government for a resolution. delivering better public services. in wales, workers they are going to be offered, it seems, that a one—off payment. does that seem the right way to in england i am not going to second—guess the negotiations. that second-guess the negotiations. that mi . ht second-guess the negotiations. that miaht be second-guess the negotiations. that might be part. _ second—guess the negotiations. tngt might be part, and some sectors, of the answer to that. it is not exactly the same in each part of the ...