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Now it's being ruled by a bunch of shiite houthis supported by iran and aqap. what happened? >> well, the government fell. the truth is that the government could not function and did not have an effective way to reach out to get broader support within that country. so it's easy to second-guess now but we knew the situation in yemen was very tenuous. we never felt very comfortable about the security arrangements there. we knew al qaeda was functioning in yemen. i think the circumstances have gotten much worse. >> they certainly have for all practical purposes yemen is a disaster right now, as i...

Apparently not. apparently not a single one is left so we'll never recover those. hillary clinton, on the other hand, maintained the records, preserved them, and turned them over after a determination as to which were official and which were personal. >> well, you say that it's a double standard, and fair or not, you know, you lived through it, you helped prepare are the clintons during the ken starr investigation, you worked with her even before she went before grand jury. you know what it's like to be in the clinton trenches. so given that, and maybe the knowledge that there is a perception,...

Especially since she knew she was going to run for president? >> i'm not going to second guess. she herself acknowledged she could have done this better. she was implicitly confessing error here. she wished she had done it a different way. she didn't but that doesn't mean that the way she did it was wrong let along worse than that. you know we can all get -- look. with the clintons, you hear these stories all the time. i picked up the washington post this morning and i started reading this story. you know hillary clinton used her private e-mail account as florida governor -- woops, it doesn't ...

Justify shooting him five or six times? >> it's easy to second-guess the cops in this situation but they had the numbers. it was a number of them against a single person but the police are supposed to escalate their force on a proportional basis. as a suspect gets more violent, the police can get more violent to subdue him. but there's one factor that changes everything. and that is if a suspect is reaching for or touching an officer's gun and he gets that gun, in an instant, you'll have a dead police officer or a shot police officer. so that's sort of changes everything. and if in fact -- >> ...

Second-guess just as ralph peters talked about, a media group censoring themselves in something similar happens with law enforcement, it goes into a cautionary defensive mode instead of an aggressive protective mode. martha: that combination has to be exactly what those kind of things the terrorists would love to see making things much easier for them and they have no qualms about what they want to carry out. michael, thank you it's good to have you with us. bill: the words of terrorists as they shot their way through a french newspaper. a newspaper that thrived on humor. twelve people dead, s...