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Forward. >> yeah. jonathan, my first reaction is they can't use the here's complaint anymore. this whistleblower apparently has firsthand knowledge of the call that the president had with zielinski on july 25th. if they could use the hear say defense anyway. i think this is going to change calculations on the hill. they're waiting to have direct testimony from the first whistleblower. now i imagine they're also going to want to bring the second whistleblower in. the statement that was put out by the attorneys here says that there are multiple whistleblowers that they're representing which is i...

Identifying, things related to employment are all supposed to be protected as secret. >> kelly, let me ask you one more question before i let you go. you brought it up in terms of multiple versus the second whistleblower. the statement put out by the attorney says they are representing, quote, multiple whistleblowers. and yet we're talking about a second whistleblower who has come forward. is there any indication that by use of the word multiple they are signaling that it is more than two whistleblowers we could be talking about right now? >> i've been working that angle this morning, because ...

They're afraid for their political survival if they take on this president in public. >> congressman, what impact do you think now that we know that there is a second whistleblower? what impact do you think that will have either on republicans -- on republicans in general on the hill, but also on the ongoing impeachment inquiry? >> well, jonathan, in candor, i'm not sure if it's going to have impact on the republicans. the facts aren't in dispute. i don't know what more it will take than the president of the united states going on national television asking china and ukraine to inve gait his p...

This way, senator. >> we have a broad panel reporters and analysts to assess. we start with hans nichols at the white house. let's get to the very latest on this second whistleblower. what do you know about it? >> reporter: we know the second whistleblower has firsthand knowledge of the issues that the initial whistleblower was discussing. so there is cooperation there. according to sources the second whistleblower won't necessarily file a formal complaint, but here is the issue. by talking to the icig, that individual has whistleblower status. so that gives you a sense that there is corrobora...

Terms of whistleblowers. and the president is attacking -- was attacking the first whistleblower. i can imagine that he will be attacking the second whistleblower. but what would you say to other people who could potentially be whistleblowers in this moment? because we've heard people on our air talking about the fact that these whistleblowers now have targets on their backs whether it's tweets from the president and their personal safety, and that might send a chill through anyone who might consider stepping forward with information that they have. you're sitting on the oversight committee. y...