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That would be section 5104 of the u.s. code, the law that makes it a crime to "step on or climb on any statue, seat, wall, fountain or other architectural feature for any tree, shrub, plant or turf on the capitol grounds." he now faces 15 years in federal prison. this is a grotesque and shocking story but it is real. he joins us now along with his attorney. thank you both for joining us. first a usb attorney, it's hard to see based on the facts and te documents we have read, what exactly the crime was here that is justified 15 years in prison. >> to me it looks like we really have a department...

Complains obstruction is not part of mueller's mandate. >> they have gotten so beyond there scope that it's absurd. >> how has he gotten beyond his scope? >> how has he gone beyond the scope? at least four degrees of separation. it begins with collusion. he goes to a completely phony obstruction investigation. >> so that's actually totally not true. when you look at deputy attorney general rod rosenstein's it's his may 27 letter congresman, appointing mueller, this is section b, subsection 2, states, the special counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then fbi director ...

Since it will not be in their hands but the intelligence community has said in testimony to officials that, you know, it's not going to hamper it so much. that it's a viable option for them. >> so those who have struck this alarmist tone is there a reason for the alarm? the telecom companies are keeping this data and this information, i mean simple subpoena should be able to get what's needed? >> yeah. i mean the past couple -- this is not really a new thing. every time these provisions have come up for expiration we've seen a lot of this fire and brim stone from senior administration official...