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And more moderate republicans. there's a lot of low hanging fruit that can help the country energy independence, secure borders, a solution for obama care, balanced budgets, these are simple things that would thing every republican would agree on. do you agree with that? >> i do. i think we have to be positive. we have to have a message out there that not only unites moderate republicans but tea party republicans but also can bring some democrat votes. one example, i saw this article today that the folks up at harvard are not happy about obama care being visited on the medical programs up atte...

We've had the greatest divider as president since i can't remember. we need someone to start getting things done that's going to help average, ordinary working americans have a better opportunity at their life. >> there seems to be a divide. what i, for example speaker boehner were ever to come on the program, and i don't think he's too fond of me right now, or if i had an opportunity, i would say to him, he should unite tea party conservatives like myself and more moderate republicans. there's a lot of low hanging fruit that can help the country energy independence, secure borders, a solution...

Could be granted a path to citizenship. you would not work with the president on that. the white house would very much like your help. could we get it? >> if we secure the borders. we have not secured our borders. if we don't have secure borders, john, then five, ten, 15 years from now we're dealing with more brought here illegally by their parents. it's foolish to deal with something like the dream act until we get the borders secured. we can. with people and surveillance and fences we can do it. by the way, there's been a colossal failure and a west of about a billion-dollars called sbi net,...

The witnesses testify the way they did. martha: all right, father jonathan, we have seen churches act as sanctuaries, you know, and not want to turn people away. they want families to be together, so, how do you sort of ride that line, and, still maintain borders? >> right. i think what we have to do is balance both faith and reason in this issue. and, i'm glad to hear the dro s democrats going back to the bible and the republicans, in a special way since roe vs. wade we have decided biblical standards, no, have nothing to do with politics, in fact they do, because it is making decisions based...

Hispanic vote going forward. i hope that's not the case. i expect there's a lot of hispanics across the country who want to stand up for the idea of secure borders. and the idea that states ought to fend for their citizens we the federal government isn't. >> greta: it is interesting what is going on in this country. the fact that your state is joining in arizona, a bunch of republican attorneys generals, the same lines drawn on the national health care the pending lawsuits in virginia and in florida. it is very interesting how we have this dynamic such a divide and everyone is fighting it out ...