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Policy, sometimes it's -- it's very difficult to get the american people to focus on what's really at stake. and so i think it starts tonight with the president's speech but it doesn't end with the speech tonight. i think we really have to wait and see what happens over the next few days. >> we're out time. i've got to ask you quickly, because you've written so much about this, does what we heard over the last hour or so suggest to you that there is not going to be a humanitarian argument here? >> i think they're going to continue to use every argument they can. including the security argument...

With the mechanisms, i think bo is wrong, that liberty versus security argument, that's a red herring, not true. >> you have a professional responsibility and you as secret service had a professional responsibility. he was still in this job. he didn't resign from it then open up, that's the point i'm going at. i deal with secrets every day. if i stand on a soap box, start reporting, start leaking, i become part of that problem, and you have a professional responsibility. he is part of nsa, then resign and go get a soap box and start preaching, but once you're part of that organization, you hav...

Protest i don't think it created, you know, the-- if the purpose of the ban is to assimilate the women, i don't think creating a show of police coming up to them and you know, punishing them for wearing it is going to do that. >> there's a public security issue here. throughout many countries in europe you're forbidden from wearing a ski mask except in cases of extreme weather because in liberal societies, being able to see your face is part of the responsibility that you have, if you have the right to participate in the public square. there's a real public security issue at work here which al...

Protest i don't think it created, you know, the-- if the purpose of the ban is to assimilate the women, i don't think creating a show of police coming up to them and you know, punishing them for wearing it is going to do that. >> there's a public security issue here. throughout many countries in europe you're forbidden from wearing a ski mask except in cases of extreme weather because in liberal societies, being able to see your face is part of the responsibility that you have, if you have the right to participate in the public square. there's a real public security issue at work here which al...

>> hate speech is not protected by the first amendment. talk about this. >> that's actually true. berkeley is within its rights to make a decision and put their campus -- >> i think you went to the school. greg i will start with you. it just seems like liberals don't like listening. >> it's a great scam. the security argument? we are not blocking free speech, we just can't protect you from people that can harm you because of free speech. imagine if the lifeguard said we usually give you cpr but we won't to democrats. there's a four alarm fire on sixth avenue. fox news? sorry. no, that's not ho...