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Our nuclear energy policy is we have to continue it but it has to be done carefully, we should use this time for a pause, a time out, not a moratorium, but to make sure that we learn some lessons from what's happened here in japan. >> jim woolsey, let me turn to you. if you were still running the cia, would you believe everything that we're hearing coming out of the japanese administration about what's going on with these nuclear plants? or would you be suspicious the situation might be worse than we're being told? >> well, you never believe everything you're hearing. but we don't spy on the j...

Madison square garden coming out of the nuclear plants? or would you be suspicious the situation may be worse than we're told? >> you never believe anything you're hearing, we don't spy on the japanese. most of our information is going to come from them. i think the security aspects of this that are the most interesting is that this may begin to move the world somewhat away from nuclear power. i don't think that's a bad thing, because i think natural gas can to a great extent take its place with a new gas shale extraction. assuming we can do it in an environmentally sound way. but nuclear powe...

Shaikh mohammed in civilian court in new york. what about the possibility of trying faisal shahzad there, because that's where that crime -- where would you try him? >> well, i think we could get a change of venue for him most any place. we know that if you have one of these trials in new york city, it's a couple hundred million dollars in security. we all know that new york city is one of the prime targets for acts of terror. the mayor, all of the authorities don't want that trial to take place there. look at the disruption to people's daily lives, much less the security aspects of it. >> lar...

Acts of terror. the mayor, all of the authorities don't want that trial to take place there. look at the disruption to people's daily lives, much less the security aspects of it. >> larry: our guest, senator john mccain. we'll be right back. he's at the russell rotunda on capitol hill. don't go away. i got into one of the most expensive schools in the country! [ male announcer ] when stress gives you heartburn with headache... alka-seltzer gives you relief fast. [ low male ] plop, plop. [ high male ] fizz, fizz.

Installations in eastern saudi arabia, 47 saudis, 51 yemenis, one somali, one mongolian native arrested. it's believed they are part of one network, three terror cells all three operating separately. nbc news foreign correspondent richard engel joins us live. what do you make of this? >> reporter: prfs a mainly crackdown by saudi arabia. it doesn't take place in one swoop. it's been going on since at least a week ago. there were three different groups targeted. one of them was much larger than the other two. the first described by saudi officials as a terror network. in just that network, ther...