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Terms of putting out what they want to do in terms -- also not great at messaging. i think obama 2.0 in terms of how he is playing this is very good. >> it is way more cut throat, carrie, thaen we've seen the white house be if, in fact, they did leak it. usa today is a very savvy choice in terms of its broad readership. i will point out this is all coming, you know -- we're talking about security borders. rand paul says he wants an annual vote by congress affirming that the border is secure. i don't know what the metrics are in deciding that, but at the same time he is also pushing for the seq...

He might be polarizing and really alienating the republicans. we know that with the bipartisan plan that senators pushed forth yesterday it was clear both sides conceded. the republicans are talking about legal pathway to earn citizenship while the democrats are talking about security borders and more enforcement and so those are positive steps forward and they're bold. i really worry that with president obama stepping in, he could alienate the republicans and at the end, basically cause this immigration reform plan to fall through. jon: does he care if he alienates republicans? >> i think tha...

The uzbek authorities. ethnic uzbeks. they live in southern kyrgystan. fled across the border to uzbekistan. the majority are uzbeks. complicated, ethnic divisions across this region. i think what is interesting about looking at the people in this camp is that there are women and children. there are no men amongst them. a few around. some with quite severe injuries. they have been shot, cut with knives. the vast majority of the people in this camp and all the other camps along the border, more than 100,000 people in, are women and children who have escaped the fighting and in fear for their li...

To have a discussion with the dnc. >> people are asking the question now, who the tea party is and what it stands for, there was an interesting letter to the editor in "the new york times" from columbus, ohio, its members seem to want a strong military but don't want to finance it. don't like social programs like medicare but readily accept the medicare benefits and don't like the federal bailout but would be angry if the government did nothing and their investments and retirements went down the drain. they are a mass of con contradictions. >> almost like you're looking at one side of the equa...