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Passions about that as well. symbolically it's important to see if they can get away with this. i suggest we don't let them. >> the state department should not grant that visa? >> under department rules we're allowed to hold the granting of a visa if there's a security component to it. the fact he was involved in taking american hostages, so yes we should exercise that. >> you're going to be going to ukraine in the next couple of weeks. what is your assessment of what russia is doing because they pulled back some units but according to some of your colleagues whom i've spoken to, the indicatio...

Jordan valley and a much stronger involvement in the military aspect, not just saying once you have peace you'll have security but this time -- what kerry is trying to do he says, is say here is the security component. but israel is going to have to give up something as the palestinians will. what israel will have to give up is land, land for peace has been a settled issue with israel all along for decades since camp david. but if israel keeps building settlements it's going to be harder to envision any kind of palestinian state that has real borders. >> it only works if it's a two-way street....

You've got these navigators and they're going to be out, they're going to be pitching, okay, sign up for obamacare. and also maybe you should vote? >> in california, the secretary of state announced at every step of the process, these navigators will also be urging people or helping people register to vote. look, i'm glad people register to vote, but i think we're appl. i think there could be a potentially a political component here. >> steve: okay. so let's talk a little bit about the security component. what about these navigators? who are they? they're going to have all our data. can we tru...

'86 legalization. so, no, there has to be a real, not lip service, a real serious order and interior security component of this. we do not want to be -- we don't want to go through this effort to be in the same place five or ten years down the road. and therefore we have to learn from the mistakes of the past. part of it is border security. part of it is interior security. we have to modernize the visa system, the visa program so people can legally apply to come to the united states. which is why all of it has to be fixed. it is broken from a to z. we have to fix it. >> and i think the differe...

Republican colleagues we're going to do at the same time. >> here's the issue. it's not only that. because that is true. what you just said, that's exactly what happened after the '86 legalization. so, no, there has to be a real, not lip service, a real serious order and interior security component of this. we do not want to be -- we don't want to go through this effort to be in the same place five or ten years down the road. and therefore we have to learn from the mistakes of the past. part of it is border security. part of it is interior security. we have to modernize the visa system, the vi...