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>> the buck stopped. she'd already made it clear that the buck stopped with her. we were interested in where the decisions were made. and she did not make the security decisions that we felt -- >> was that a problem, do you think? >> no, not at all. i think it was behind the legislation. we looked in to what the congress was saying at the time it passed the legislation to set up the process. and they said it is traditional for heads of agencies to take responsibility then nobody goes down and finds where the decisions were made. and that's what we'd like to see. and we would like to have peopl...

Back to him in just a moment. in the meantime, i want to play for you what congressman jason caithness told bill hemmer this morning about some of the answers that he and the other members would like to get from today's events. >> it wasn't for trey gowdy and others, we would be led to believe that security decisions were made on the grounds by those security professionals and that was never true. we are going to hear testimony from mark thompson about that today. we have military assets, people that were ready to go into battle. but there'll own lives at risk. we believe after-the-fact the co...

Clinton had the gall to come here and perpetuate things we know as common knowledge are simply not true. >> julian, you used to be the director of the oversight committee. how political is this hearing? because first they said this was the president's greatest failing, but now they seem to have their eyes on 2016 and the potential candidacy of one hillary clinton. >> well, it's very, very transparent, and unfortunately, this committee did not used to be as political a committee as it is today. it's very clear the republicans believe hillary clinton is is unstoppable. they're seeking to scandal...

Had nothing to do with, security decisions she had nothing to do with, and as a result we now have a president surrounded -- the first black president, it's true, but surrounded by a series of old white men from the senate and i would like to see maybe chief of staff, maybe hagel if he concedes to republicans on hagel, i would just like to see a cabinet that is more diverse and is not a bunk of old white guys from the senate. >> let's pick up on that, and i want to push you a little on where that responsibility goes. for people who heard what you just said and said that sounds bad, is that bad...

They were able to see in real-time across washington, they can see could see in washington what was happening in real time. what was happening at the consulate and possibly at the amax. jon: so many questions left to answer. jennifer griffin, thank you. so who made the security decisions before and during the attack? coming up, we will speak with four-star general jack keane and ambassador nick burns and get their takes. the two just in time for halloween. a monster of a storm, and her name is sandy. why she could become a very big problem for the east coast. also, this small business owner as...