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Many since my last gig in paris when i was backstage and confronted by a troop of military in flack jackets and machine guns plus 20 police, and then later on after the show i was talking to the promoteer and he said i love you, i love doing this, music is my life. but he said, i can't keep on doing this because i have to pay for this security, and that amount of security doesn't come cheap. so obviously i have to look at that and think, wow. it's just -- it's just going to be the last this happens? no it's not. it's going to happen again. i just thought that if i could bring it -- attention t...

To wonder, do you think this will affect the music world? people actually going to concerts? >> well, it's certainly affected many since my last gig in paris when i was backstage and confronted by a troop of military in flack jackets and machine guns, plus 20 police and then later on, after the show, i was talking to the promoteer, and he said i love you and music is my life, but i can't keep on doing this because i have to pay for all this security and that amount of security doesn't come cheap. so obviously i have to look at that and think, wow. it's just going to be the last this happens, n...

Rob: this is the reaction, now we do this, they are going to do this. a terribly large expense, the security industry, billions of dollars every year, we are changing, we need them to change. >> very well put. security exists prior to the attack and the problem in our country when it comes to our security because we have a lot of polarized opinions, those types of things, the discomfort we will face, good security doesn't need to infringe on your personal life. people want to be safe here.

We begin to take a look at two things. expanding the area of protection and having a protection after the event which is something we hadn't thought of. >> after an event is nothing, but as they say in the ghoulish business of security, soft targets exiting a venue. a lot of security folks thought our job is done now. they are on their way home. >> i think that's exactly right. you have got to look at the egress. what we've seen a number of times is people positioned at the egress to try and create this type of havoc and death as we saw in england. the security is not over until the people are...

At times where trump had a lot of po of people fleeing his orbit when he made some pretty big mistakes. and michael flynn did not do that. now, on the flipside, i totally agree that donald trump doesn't generally just offer what seems to be almost unconditional support and loyalty just out of the goodness of his heart. there might be something else there that we gijust don't know about. but that is why the concept or notion of flynn potentially talking to the feds in order to get, you know, to get either immunity or a lighter sentence for whatever it is that he may have done, may have done, th...