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Her prism is the police are the enemy, we're prey to them game to lie about it. this kid didn't are -- this individual didn't have a gun and he is rub away from the police and was shot down by the police. this is her narrative what she truly believes. here's someone, or colleague saying, way. , we saw a gun here's a police officer trying to secure the crime scene. obviously there was a gun in place. there's another witness that's going to say, saw him reaching for his waistband and presumably it was for the gun. there was a shooting. all these things will come to bear. based on -- you need som...

>> all right. are you breathing? >> harsh. harsh to watch. legality aside we're still arguing whether water boarding worked. some security folks say indict not. others say we might not have gotten osama bin laden had some terrorist not rafted out his courier while they were being water boarded. remember that? >> i absolutely remember it. as a matter of fact i wrote a book about jose an american hero who stopped the presumed 20th hijacker. he is one of those with whom harsh interrogation methods were used. he gave up al kuwaiti who was "the courier" followed back to the compound. look it's hard...

What's going to happen to them, where they are going to go and what they are going to do with the information is yet to be known. i think this is a national security issue. more so than any kind of aviation or accident investigation scenario. so it's really going to be up to u.n. security folks, military people trying to solve the intent of the shoot-down and who actually did it. >> what will investigators be looking for when they get there? it's a difficult scene. >> when you look at what it is and it's now a crime scene. of course we don't know how much evidence is still in existence given t...

You have to keep it at home. if you have that, you have to register with a commander. i know that security folks are allowed to have it and law enforcement here on post are allowed to have it. but that's it. do you think that that is fair because i'm sure there are members of the military that say, i'm going and serving my country in iraq and afghanistan. you know, is it fair that i cannot be armed on post? >> first, we should look into the precinct security at checkpoints and also at -- is more security needed within the base itself. as far as carrying weapons, i think we should look at that....

In the technical issues tas it relates to the airplane. while you have to work with the security folks and the crimin criminologists there are two, three parallel investigates going on right now. the ntsb is going to help try to find the airplane. once they do find what they believe is the airplane, then they get to do the technical stuff while the criminal folks will get into the backgrounds of these crews to see if they have got issues. silk air, we had to work hand in hand with the criminal investigators because there was a lot of personal information that was coming out about captain su on...