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With a possible 115 years, which would have been a life sentence. and we'll get to that trial in a moment. but i just want to get inside your head a little bit. the young daniel ellsberg, because it seems to me... i wasn't that young. i was a0. 0k. well, pretty young. from my current perspective. very young. but the point is, you in some ways were trained to be a security hawk. you were working in america's sort of nuclear strategy. that was one of your key concerns. you clearly believed in america's position on the cold war. in fact, i think it's fair to say that you supported intervention in...

But i just want to get inside your head a little bit. the young daniel ellsberg, because it seems to me... i wasn't that young. i was a0. 0k. well, pretty young. from my current perspective. very young. but the point is, you in some ways were trained to be a security hawk. you were working in america's sort of nuclear strategy. that was one of your key concerns. you clearly believed in america's position on the cold war. in fact, i think it's fair to say that you supported intervention in vietnam. yes and no. i'd been in vietnam on a research group for the defense department in 1961. it was ac...

And i thought, this is 7000 pages of top secret documents. i'll go to prison for life. and in fact, i was charged with a possible 115 years, which would have been a life sentence. and we'll get to that trial in a moment. but i just want to get inside your head a little bit. the young daniel ellsberg, because it seems to me... i wasn't that young. i was a0. 0k. well, pretty young. from my current perspective. very young. but the point is, you in some ways were trained to be a security hawk. you were working in america's sort of nuclear strategy. that was one of your key concerns. you clearly be...

A life sentence. and we'll get to that trial in a moment. but i just want to get inside your head a little bit. the young daniel ellsberg, because it seems to me... i wasn't that young. well, pretty young. from my current perspective. but the point is, you in some ways were trained to be a security hawk. you were working in america's sort of nuclear strategy. that was one of your key concerns. you clearly believed in america's position on the cold war. in fact, i think it's fair to say that you supported intervention in vietnam. yes and no. i'd been in vietnam on a research group for the defen...

Fliers without tickets. wait for arriving loved ones. could this test program put people's safety at risk. joining us now with insight former deputy assistant secretary of transportation oliver mcgehee. thanks for joining us this morning. after 9/11 everything changed. you needed to have a ticket on a flight to go through security. is this a worrisome change at all? >> well, not necessarily. but you and i, pete, you are a military guy. i'm an aviation safety and security hawk we're a little bit more inclined to be more conservative in such test pilot programs like these gate pass programs. thi...