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Severity. you don't know what plane it could be on. you're heightening up security levels. if you didn't do it and god forbid something did happen, there would obviously be criticism and chance to of avoided what the effort is out there. you know what the story really is, what's old is new again. richard reed, the shoe bomber, the threat from england where they tried to use the liquid bombs. again, it's the hydro general peroxide bombs. >> has it advanced since 2009? what have we learned since then? >> there are so many agencies like the homeland security advanced projects agency. what happens...

In california the film crew can't wear blue jeans. the inmates wear blue jeans. so if something breaks out on the yard and an officer in the tower needs to shoot a bean bag they have to quickly discern who's an inmate, who's a non-inmate. >> different colors are used to identify the security levels of various inmates. but at the maricopa county jail in phoenix, arizona, sheriff joe arpaio personally chose the black and white striped uniforms along with the pink underwear and socks to send a message. >> this is joe arpaio's way to express how we are pay our way back to society. the pink is his ...

Levels at installations like this. we have a mix of military personnel, contractors. you'll see a lot of congressional attention and public attention on both of those issues. and then the bigger question of, access, can anybody now -- post-9/11 as the years have passed have we dropped the level of scrutiny when you walk in with a card or a bag. >> john king, fran townsend, thank you very much for the perspective. we'll be coming back to you. appreciate it. obviously we're talking about shooter here. the real attention, of course, is on the 12 innocent people who lost their lives. they were mot...

Security levels. >> okay. we're going to pull out of this. you've been listening for the last 10, 15 minutes to different officials here in washington, be it fbi out of washington, d.c., i heard from the chief here of police, metropolitan police, ncis. they're trying to answer some questions from the media. a couple headlines that jumped out at me, hearing them say the shooter acted alone, number one. number two, he, according to police and fbi, walked into the navy yard just behind us here armed with a shotgun. at some point inside, he perhaps got his hands on a handgun, but they seem to say ...

>> police officers in north las vegas who were saying that they and their families deserve lifetime pensions because of 9/11 when they were not involved. you cannot compromise american civil liberties and civil rights because of 9/11. >> that's kind of a strange place to go with that whole rapt there. >> no it's not. >> no one's arguing that we should shut down all civil liberties. >> yes, we are. >> let me ask you this. do you believe everything that edward snowden has said? >> no. i don't brielieve everything they've said. a lot of what snowden has done is very narcissistic. i think there is...