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>> i think the ruling, i'm not a lawyer, but i think it made a lot of sense. it was pretty clear from the beginning because of what the president had said on the campaign aiming to be a ban of muslims. rudy giuliani basically testified to that on television so it's hard to see how the judges could have come up with a different conclusion. the other thing that was very powerful about this, this is the fourth -- four chunlgs, two republicans and two democrats and clearly not a political verdict. this is a judicial verdict and the rule of law and what this country is about. >> evan, i wonder if y...

We've seen that. he has lived like this. >> not like this. >> he has. >> this is different. this is vastly different. >> the security part is different. >> the biggest problem is going to be where he lives right now in trump tower. he loves trump tower. he loves living there. all you have to do is see a scene from "24" to see where the fictional president got shot in a skyscraper. there are windows all of the way around. this is going to be a security nightmare for him. his life is going to change. >> the secret service and new york police department cannot wait for him to leave because it's a...

They want to make sure that it's been properly stored, and that's what the security review, so we've cooperated with them and done whatever we need to to help them finish that process. the justice department has been clear that what she has done in terms of deciding to use a personal e-mail account, even though she said it was the wrong choice, and she would have done it differently, that it was allowed and she was certainly within her own bounds to decide which e-mails were business related and which ones were personal and decide which ones to keep and not. but we're very happy to cooperate w...

Also missing are pledges he's made to streamline the legal immigration system. this plan is all red meat. it's all about curbing illegal immigration and cutting back on legal immigration chance. >> it does resonate with potential republicans out there, right? >> we don't know what the price tag would be because maybe there would be sticker shock among conservatives who are very concerned about government spending, if you look back that that 2013 senate bipartisan bill, that was something like $23 billion over ten years. the security part of that was $15 billion and that, of course, was offset ...

Mapping whose who in the government. if you can map high level officials to key programs or agencies and then you are able to find out their vulnerabilities maybe because they have submitted information. you tie them and connect them to neighbors, family member personal friends, you are able to start to assess people as targets to potentially target them from a human perspective or to collect this massive database. it is like ancestry.com for the government. >> opm is basically the human resources department of the federal government. do they have less security or less controls than what we co...