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With a gunshot wound. you still have to go through all the motions to make sure that the scene is secure. if the suspect wanted to leave ammunition and gun next to a body that would bring the conclusion he is the suspect but you can't go that fast. >> that's right. you don't know if there might be other people involved. >> you have no idea. you haven't been able to get in the wallet of these people, or the purses to see who these people are. if you have a security person. a police officer that has a weapon that was trying to engage the suspect. that could be the possibility. you also have to i...

Often called. it is not a question of telling the secretary. it is did they inform her administration. she is not saying i didn't get personally briefed. she went further and said we weren't. that royal we is extremely important. that is to imply they went forward on october 1st because they weren't told of these problems. teresa fray, who was the highest ranking technology person, security person, has made it very clear that she wouldn't sign the document. she didn't recommend going forward. and that she made her thoughts known on september 20th. then from what we can tell was pretty much tak...

Risks. >> what is that? when i first read that today i thought they are going to hire somebody to make sure that all of these people who are signing up and putting their personal information was going to be a security person for that. that is not what it is it? >> it seems from that they are going to be doing what they are supposed to do. i don't want this to in anyway mask that there is some good news here. >> what is it? >> over one million people have signed up for obama care. the sites are getting better and we know that republican congress people are signing up on the dc

The security person. george zimmerman, an informal security person. this person not a police but a security person in oakland who then fired a bullet into mr. this is the temporary transcript that is ranked that time and time again. it is seen as the necessary condition for the justice system to -- if a number of young, white children lost their lives in a similar fargs. if george is innocent, will we see the same outcome? will the human guard put up in regard to trayvon martin be the effective voice and realized

>> you mentioned an informality, jim. they brought a baby up. to kiss a baby. we see at the side of the popemobile some security detail. i would imagine the security detail here is massive. >> in a way it's massive but in a way it's not massive and we can't see the things of ali aja. this kind of scene. how could you as a security person protect anyone from aass. there's some screening but they can't screen everybody. as a consequence, it's a very vulnerable thing and he's a vulnerable figure when he's doing this sort of thing. >> jim bidderman, we just saw an amazing image, pope francis being...