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Not beaten their wives in the past. it's a moral question. it's not only a security question. >> before we go to a break here, i want to get an answer on this issue of, from ned price and joyce vance, do you believe if the fbi was in possession of those photographs, the black eye photographs for the last year and this security clearance was being held up, is it likely the fbi would have showed that photograph to john kelly? joyce vance, what do you think? >> i think absolutely. they would have gone back to the potential candidate for the office and asked him to explain the photograph. and then...

One up, if you ever read the bible. so that's no shock. i think, though, we ought to be putting this under a security concern, not under a partisan concern. if, in fact, he's having serious mental problems, that's a security risk. this goes beyond -- and i agree with her in the sense the democratic members of congress ought not play this partisan. we ought to be saying, wait a minute here. we're dealing with some very serious problems globally. can he effectively think through these things? that's one. second, you have to deal with the competence of the staff in the white house, and you've bee...

Anonymously, it makes it feel acceptable to slander someone or encourage violence against someone because there's really no barriers there. because you have people going around and start pulling triggers, that's the problem. there's no distinguishing reality in real life. >> there is an argument that if you create an outlet for that, then you reduce the reality of it happening on the street. if the internet was around in the 80s or 70s, mark chapman would've been harassing from a faraway. i want to go back to the security question. there was a story today about a tennessee home owner who can't...

Anonymously, it makes it feel acceptable to slander someone or encourage violence against someone because there's really no barriers there. because you have people going around and start pulling triggers, that's the problem. there's no distinguishing reality in real life. >> there is an argument that if you create an outlet for that, then you reduce the reality of it happening on the street. if the internet was around in the 80s or 70s, mark chapman would've been harassing from a faraway. i want to go back to the security question. there was a story today about a tennessee home owner who can't...

It anonymously and there's a million of you and your trafficking the same kind of bile, it makes it feel acceptable to slander someone or encourage violence against someone because there's really no barriers there. when you get out into the real world and start pulling triggers, that's the problem. there is no division between reality and real life and stuff on the internet. >> there is an argument for the fact that if you create an outlet for that, then you reduce the reality of it happening on the streets. if t the internet was around in the o 80s, in the 70s, with john lennon be alive becau...