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Committee investigating the benghazi terror attack. joining me now is mr. bernard goldberg. do you think my analysis in the talking points and catherine heritage reportage in the a block was fair? >> yeah, i do. i do. you made a point in the talking points that she didn't take -- mrs. clinton didn't take a full control of security requests for added security and yet the number of security people on the ground in benghazi was the same before the requests were made as after the requests were made. somebody made a mistake. somebody made a mistake. and i think you captured that in your talking poi...

>> you're telling me you had no authority to take anyone's paycheck, to cause anyone to be fired? you are telling me you were legally prohibited from doing that? is that your position here this morning? >> it is my position that in the absence of finding dereliction or breach of duty there could not be immediate action taken but there was a process that was immediately instituted and which led to decisions being made. >> yes, ma'am. the decision was to put in fullback pay and keep them on as employees. that was the decision that was made as a result of the processes that you put in place. the ...

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I felt a responsibility for all 70,000 people working at the state department and usd. i take that very seriously. as i said with respect to security requests in benghazi back when i testified in january of 2013, those requests and issues related to security were rightly handled by the security professionals in the department. i did not see them. i did not approve them. i did not deny them. >> this pile represents the emails that you sent or received about libya in 2011 from february through december of 2011. this pile represents the emails you sent or received from early 2012 until the day of...

President. >> hearing 600 -- >> no. >> hearing that 600 separate security requests were made and they were denied, do you blame them for what happened? >> absolutely. i blame them for instituting an illegal regime change, for running guns, for lying about it, for not protecting our people. that's the first rule of thumb for military protocol. you never leave anyone behind. and if you can't rescue them and keep them whole, you at least bring home the body. and it's just horrific that we have this woman and this current president running this fiasco. >> our thoughts and prayers go out to you and...