Page 24 - Security Rules News Today : Breaking News, Live Updates & Top Stories | Vimarsana

Margaret, your view? >> the details of this call i think for about five people at the table, it wasn't hearsay because ambassador sondland held the phone away from his ear because trump was speaking to loudly. that violates so many security rules. but aside from that, it means that everyone heard it at the table. so, there are a number of other people that can be called. and the hearsay obstructiojectie are more objections to the hearsay rule than there are rules to follow so it's not a good argument and he's of course depriving democrats of any of the first-hand witnesses. >> maya? >> yeah, a...

Sondland saying i brought it up myself and brought it back into play. >> thank you. glad you brought in up. ellie, before i jump to you, you made a great point at commercial break. saying shadow or parallel foreign policy. this was on policy. right? >> this literally has nothing to do with foreign policy. underlined it. people with government titles were involved, this was a misuse of government resources to advance a personal political agenda. striking to me is someone who worked in government from these testimonies is these are two people who knew ethics rules, security rules and had access ...

Republican. republicans are present at this deposition and they were allowed to question. nevertheless, the republicans decided to storm the gates literally crowding into the skiff. that's a room for confidential matters and had phones, clear violation of security rules but, boy, oh, boy you saw me with the congressman tonight. rules only matter if they work in your favor and that's why people hate this process. look at them. it's like a men's warehouse sale where everything had to go. their efforts echoed by the source that this president leans on most. >> nothing is transparent. no transcrip...

Literally crowding into the skiff, a room for confidential matters, and they had phones, clear violation of security rules. but, boy, oh boy, you saw me with the congressman tonight, rules only matter if they work in your favor and that's why people hate this process. look at them. it's like a men's wearhouse sale where everything had to go. their efforts echoed >> nothing is transparent. no transcript, no hearing, no nothing. no rights for the president. no rights for republicans. >> all right. with all due respect, let's do a steel man on this argument, not strongman, not weak, at its best. ...

And can we just assume from that the president will regard it as a lost cause and move on? >> well, the answer to the second question is no. the answer to the first question is they put out a report after all these years of investigating saying there were some people at the state department who were culpable of introducing classified information to an unclassified server inappropriately, but they didn't find any evidence of a systemic disregard for the security rules. in fact, they basically were saying, you know, no harm, no foul. in effect, things shouldn't have been done this way but there ...