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And it's just that sort of connectivity we're seeing with this tragedy. actually can be used to affect change. kids aren't stupid. they get it. they get the inexplicable aspect. one of their peers who couldn't everyone buy beer was able to buy a weapon that killed them quickly. and so them, they are g galvanized. we failed them as parents in terms-over the society that exists. they are looking to themselves for the solution. >> just from a security standpoint. they're trying to stop the next shooting like this. or another shooting like this. being talked about a lot today. whether it's gun con...

Jurisdiction, the politics or anything else but it is remarkable. i think it has something to do with social media. the images you were showing before. we were in the classroom with them. i think it's just that sort of connectivity that we're seeing with this tragedy can be used to make change. kids aren't stupid. they get it. they get the inexplicable aspects of this. they get that one of their peers who couldn't buy a beer, was able to buy a weapon to kill them. to the extent i feel like we failed them as parents in terms of the society that exists right now. it may be they are looking to th...

They say, sir, we desperately need the wall. we don't need a 2,000 mile wall. we don't need a wall where you have rivers and mountains and everything else protecting. but we do need a wall for a fairly good portion. we also, as you know, it was passed in 2006, a essentially similar thing. a fence. a very substantial fence was passed. unfortunately, i don't know, they never got it done, but they need it. i'm appealing to everyone in the room to put the country before party and to sit down and negotiate and compromise and let's see if we can get something done. i really think, dick, that we have...

Cnn is hearing that some white house staffers are frustrated over this new ban prohibiting the use of personal cell phones within the west wing. the move comes days after details emerge from the bombshell book about the inner workers of the white house. we hear this has been in the works for six months. first appointed by obama later resigned after clashing with the trump administration. welcome back to you. and joining me kim zeter long time cyber security journalist that covered for wired and other publications. so, kim, i want to start with you. because does this have -- how unprecedented i...

>> it makes total sense from a security standpoint. and in the past, when you've gone into sensitive rooms where you are having classified discussions in the white house, that is the practice where you leave electronic devices in ha cub by hole cub by hole or locker. phones in particular can be turned into listening devices, and of course if you are connecting laptops and tablets to the white house network, that's a security concern as well. >> right. so surreptitious listening devices, and hacking worries, one can understand why you wouldn't have to have a cell phone in the west wing. that sa...