House. that's all on the table going into this phone call. but the reality is the tough negotiations doesn't begin until 10th of january? geneva. >> thank you. joining me is leon panetta, the former defense secretary and former cia director during the obama administration. secretary, than for your time. first off, you know, we were saying this call came at the request of putin less than two weeks before these security talks. what's putin's calculus, do you believe, and why now? >> well, i think it follows a pattern that putin has used in the past of ratchetting up pressure when he's trying to ...