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Been the most successful franchise. if isis is able to make inroads there and take away recruits and support from the al qaeda fill, it could mean death to affiliate. >> in the chaos yemen has avoided the vicious sectarian violence that we've seen if iraq and syria. you lived there for a year many years ago. how do you think that until this moment it has avoided that? >> well the shiite offshootute shoot the is a -- offshoot is a moderate group. the shia/sunni divide is much nay ohher in yemen than it is in those country. >> if the situation in yemen continues to deteriorate the sphere that we...

Security situation. the security has been deteriorating over the past few months. we saw evacuation shutdown of the u.s. embassy last month. there's been a lot of concern about how this is going to impact the u.s. counterterrorism operations there as we know. the u.s. has been actively targeting the leadership of one of al qaeda's top franchises the most dangerous in the world. al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, aqap and the political situation, political crisis is worsening, the security vacuum also there in the country, the u.s. lost its ally in recent months the government of the president,...

Attackers. theres trains camps the past few years and they have reported on what is going on in libya and the groups really exploiting the chaos in that country the political and stability and the security vacuum there to set up camp. we have seen the emergents that have pledged to isis. there's a lot of concern from the neighboring countries and also egypt. if you can recall we have seen high profile attacks taking place inside and targeting. we have seen the foreigners at a five star hotel claimed by isis and then the video of the beheading of the egyptian christians last month. so a lot in ...

Fighters in the area iraqi troops being trained by the u.s. at the moment that are slowly building up their capability. and you have what needs to happen is in order to prevent a security vacuum say the iraqi forces go into mosul and drive the 2,000 militia out. we then don't want to have pockets of power vacuums where then you have iraqis and kurdish fighters all vying for power. there needs to be an acquiescence a political roadmap post the fight for mosul which we didn't have in 2003 when we went into baghdad, in order for the long-term stability of mosul to exist. >> but here's something -...

Sympathies, how does that compromise the situation? >> it makes it very complicated. because as you mentioned, there are those crossovers, now sharif is the democratically-elected prime minister of pakistan. he's tried to have a dialogue and negotiate with the pakistan taliban. ultimately it's failed. and then he has the problem of pakistani military, who have their own agenda, their own foreign policy dynamics and they have been undermining his own rule. we've seen in the last few months there have been a lot of protests in pakistan, the suspicions has always been that those were orchestrated...