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When he did the first circle around the white house, in the very managed parade route, he was separated by security vehicles and security personnel from really reaching out and touching and being close to those people. and that's something he's going to have to contend with. now, i was speaking to anderson cooperer a short time ago. he made the point that when he gets to new york the security personnel are prepared for moments where, for instance, people give him gifts. that's a big part of this. he's used to that. people sometimes throw him gifts. they are prepared for that. they don't want t...

In a fancy mercedes for the most part. >> he really has made a symbolic choice in his choice of vehicles. he's going around the world and generally riding around in something that produces locally, part of the local economy, but also fairly modest vehicles. i'm sure a lot of people were surprised not to see him getting into a cadillac or mercedes. >> when you think of a motorcade in washington, d.c., you don't think of a fiat. >> no. you don't think of a little black fiat. ironic ironically, for this pope it was a perfect vehicle. it was fairly modest, efficient, small four cylinder engine but...

Chosen to drive some of the cars in the same motorcade as the president. former secret service agent dan emon has always been worried about that. he is author of "within arm's length." this shocked me but it's been going on for a while. how? >> this has been going on at least since i was an agent in the '8s so. you have a number of cars in the presidential motorcade, security vehicles are driven by law enforcement officers. however the majority of vehicles in a secret service presidential motor okayed are not security. they're staff and media. and through the years the secret service has allow...

Cases, these are the initial reports, more information developing and certainly more throughout the day, as you begin to see some of the security vehicles move into the washington navy yard, certainly getting as many security personnel as they can in there and getting this situation resolved. >> i'm going to let you get more information from the pentagon barbara starr and i want to go to the scene. cnn's paul corson is on the ground at the navy yard. paul, what are you seeing? >> reporter: right now can you can hear me? >> i can hear you now. lou is back. we'll have paul corson on the ground a...

Good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you very much for joining us this morning. the stories we are watching right now in the newsroom. we have to head out to brazil. inside that corolla with the window rolled down is pope francis. he's on his way to a poor neighborhood in brazil to talk to those who are in need of his blessing, or in need of so much more. the pope's whole purpose on this visit is to convince people they should get to the poor and support them more. as you can see the window is down in that he corolla, and the pope is sitting in the backseat just like a normal guy. many, man...