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You know, they have a permit to build 40-plus miles of berm. and if they were to try to armor all of it to keep it from washing away, you would completely change the dynamics of that coast. you're going to change the way the tides move in and out, you're going to change the wave climate. you're going to change the way the sediment moves. and all of this could be very detrimental to habitat. it could do more harm than good for the wetlands you're try og to protect. >> you're hearing perhaps the ecological impact of this spill may not be as bad as some had feared early on. tell me about that. >>...

Build 40-plus miles of berm, and if they were to try to armor all of it to keep it from washing away, you would completely change the dynamics of that coast. you're going to change the way the tides move in and out, you're going to change the wave climate. you're going to change the way the sediment moves. and all of this could be very detrimental to habitat. it could do more harm than good for the wetlands that you're trying to protect. >> you're hearing perhaps the ecological impact of this spill may not be as bad as some had feared early on. tell me about that. >> well, i've spoken with a l...

Clear the extent of the armoring that they would like to do, but, you know, they have a permit to build 40-plus miles of berm. and if they were to try to armor all of it to keep it from washing away, you would completely change the dynamics of that coast. you're going to change the way the tides move in and out, you're going to change the wave climate. you're going to change the way the sediment moves. and all of this could be very detrimental to habitat. it could do more harm than good for the wetlands you're try og to protect. >> you're hearing perhaps the ecological impact of this spill may...

The way that the tides move in and out and the way that the sediment moves and all of this could be very detrimental to habitat. it could do more harm to the wetlands than you're trying to protect. >> you're hearing that the eke logical impact may not be as bad as some had feared early on. tell me about that. >> well, i spoke with a lot of agency officials and scientists in louisiana. so far the oil has not penetrated incredibly deeply into the wetlands and there is a growing faith that the system could recover from this spill. and i think what the scientists are backing increasingly worried a...

What really frightens me is that i heard recently that the governor's office is applying for a permit. >> why is that? >> well, if you create essentially a rock wall out there and it's still not quite clear, the extent of the armoring that they would like to do, but they have a permit to build 40-feet miles of berm, if they were trying to keep it from washing away, then you would completely change the dynamics of that coast. the way that the tides move in and out and the way that the sediment moves and all of this could be very detrimental to habitat. it could do more harm to the wetlands than...