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>> i don't know bill ayers from the man in the moon. they are passing thing it's. >> sean: 20 years in his church? 20 years? unrepentant terrorist, starting your political crier in his house, that didn't impress you? >> this was a guy living in chicago and happened to have a friend by the name of bill ayers. but i don't see bill ayers as having a long-standing influence on the president. i mean, it is ancient history now. why are we fooling with this? i think the economy and the president's record -- i couldn't see nureverend wright's church for 20 years. >> i didn't know anything about revere...

If you can't change that disparity by using the taxation system, how do you bridge the chasm between the haves and have notes? >> over the long-term, you have to invest in education for everyone. high quality education and a high quality infrastructure that everyone can take advantage of. most americans can be more productive. in the shoerm term, there is no alternative and if you have a large gaping deficit over the 10-year term, there is no alternative but to raise taxes. for the republicans to hold on to the notion that because grover norquist and i don't know who elected him, but because t...

Definitely negligently. do you think the evidence was persuasive enough. what's your assessment. >> you know, with this this case, it wasn't a question of who did it or what the facts were. everything was clear. the issue before the jury was listen to the judge's instructions and decide whether the facts as they know him by the person on trial rose to the level of criminal conduct. that's the one question they are faced with and i think the answer will be yes, it did. >> you were talking about the jury and the considerations of this complexity and there is a lot of science involved. this jury ...