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And trump's not the only one doubling down with his own interpretation of january 6th. steve bannon plotting at the grass roots level. >> guess what. we're going to take over the election apparatus. american citizens that are volunteering, they are now going to volunteer to go to become a precinct committeemen. they're going to volunteer to become an election official. they're going to come and run for county clerk and overthrow these county clerks. they're going to take over the secretaries of state. >> my next guest knows the threat better than just about anyone. he's the coauthor of "peril,...

Doubling down with his own interpretation of january 6th. steve bannon plotting at the grass roots level. >> guess what? we're going to take over the election apparatus. american citizens that are volunteering, they are now going to volunteer to go to become a precinct committeemen. they're going to volunteer to become an election official. they're going to come and run for county clerk and overthrow these county clerks. they're going to take over the secretaries of state. >> my next guest knows the threat better than just about anyone. he's the coauthor of "peril," and a national political re...

Going to get a decertify in arizona, in georgia, p in pennsylvania, wait for it, in wisconsin. we are going to get these electors decertified. guess what? we are going to take over the election apparatus. >> a reality check they are not getting the elections decertified and the plan to take over the election apparatus is exactly what their plan is and why the fact finding and fight for democracy is ratcheting up. joining me now is the former acting solicitor general. your reaction to the newest request from congressman perry. >> it is a big deal. up until now the investigation has focused outs...

Others have gone to school and seen the success of the russian interference in 2016. and so others with different axes to grind -- notably iran or north korea or china as examples, are also going to participate. i am sure that a lot has been done to enhance election -- the security of our election apparatus in preparation for 2020. i think the fbi, department of homeland security, national security agency and others have done this, as well as the states. but you have to remember that our election process and the apparatus that supports it is very decentralized. among 50 states and local entiti...

Appropriately and correctly, what we've done so far has not thwarted them. so i think it's a real concern that all americans ought to have for the 2020 election. >> what do you make then of the way republicans on the hill are handling election security? >> well, i was very disappointed in the thwarting of this bill which was designed to enhance election security. apparently it's more important not to incur the wrath of the president than it is to secure our election apparatus. and this, you know, is characteristic of the president. when we briefed him in january of '17 on the intelligence comm...